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recomandare anvelope de iarna

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Salut!
Se apropie iarna si e timpul pentru incaltari de sezon.
Ce parere aveti despe Nokian 205 55 R16 91T ??? sau merita altceva la pretul asta (360ron)?
exista vreun magazin online cu vreo oferta speciala pentru clubc4?
credeti ca se merita un set nou de jante de tabla de 15 + cauciucurile aferente vs 4 cauciucuri de R16?
Numai bine!
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depinde ce Nokian.
Eu de iarna am Nokian WRG2 si sunt foarte multumit de ele. Daca vorbesti de WRG2 atunci pretul este foarte bun (la dimensiunea asta nu prea le gasesti sub 400 si ceva bucata)
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morpheus80 scrie:Salut!
Se apropie iarna si e timpul pentru incaltari de sezon.
Ce parere aveti despe Nokian 205 55 R16 91T ??? sau merita altceva la pretul asta (360ron)?
exista vreun magazin online cu vreo oferta speciala pentru clubc4?
credeti ca se merita un set nou de jante de tabla de 15 + cauciucurile aferente vs 4 cauciucuri de R16?
Numai bine!
Diferenta mare este intre jantele de 17 si 16 in ceea ce priveste cauciurile, dar intre 16 si 15 nu prea este mare diferenta.

In ceea ce priveste jantele, depinde cat de mult vrei sa le aperi, ca iarna se mai zgarie.
Deasemeni schimbatul cauciurilor pe aceiasi janta daca este facut de graba cum se face cand vine zapada si este nebunie la vulcanizari poate sa iti strice forma cauciului.

Decizia este a ta....eu personal am optat pentru a-mi cumpara un set de jante separat pt. iarna.
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eu zic sa-ti iei cauciucuri si jante pe 15 ptr ca iesi cam tot pe acolo ca pret...
in plus, iarna e bine sa ai janta de tabla ptr ca nu se prea umple cu zapada si nu-ti descentreaza roata
si ... doar te duci la o vulcanizare si-ti schimbi rotile cu totul :hi
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commandorsteel scrie:si ... doar te duci la o vulcanizare si-ti schimbi rotile cu totul :hi
Nu mai stii schimba nici o roata singur. ::P Asta e cel mai mare avantaj la roti de iarna (pneuri si jenti de tabla) ca nu mai mergi in vulcanizare. Eventual pt verificat presiunea.
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da mah, am incercat si eu de 2 ori sa le schimb singur (rotile) si din pacate... nu prea reusesc sa ridic masina fara sa stramb pragurile #-o
are un sistem ciudat la cricul ala :( si oricum il pun... nu-mi iese treaba cum trebuie :|
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ce ziceti de conti winter viking astea ?
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Cauciucuri tipice tarilor nordice :D...
Sunt foarte misto, pacat ca scot zgomotul ala infernal pe portiuni de drum curat!
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dar de BF Goodrich G-Force Winter ce parere aveti?
daca cumpar doar 2 pentru fata ma expun la ceva periculos? se comporta spatele cu anvelope de vara aiurea??
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morpheus80 scrie: se comporta spatele cu anvelope de vara aiurea??
foarte !!
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tony.iordache scrie:ce ziceti de conti winter viking astea ?
Daca sint dintr-alea cu tinte si nu mergi preponderent pe portiuni inzapezite sau cu gheata - FAIL.
La noi iernile sint destul de uscate, iar cind nu sint uscate nu prea au foarte mult polei/gheata si zapada batatorita. Deci nu ai ce face cu tintele, ba dimpotriva, te incurca extraordinar.

In tarile nordice nu au voie in orase cu pneuri de iarna cu tinte pentru ca:
1. distrugi asfaltul;
2. la limita esti cam sanie, firmele de asigurari s-ar putea sa nu prea despagubeasca in cazul in care pocnesti pe careva, se ajunge la diverse complicatii, etc.
Nu mai stiu in ce tara nordica am impresia ca in anumite orase ai voie cu asemenea pneuri contra unei taxe. Finlanda probabil.
morpheus80 scrie:dar de BF Goodrich G-Force Winter ce parere aveti?
daca cumpar doar 2 pentru fata ma expun la ceva periculos? se comporta spatele cu anvelope de vara aiurea??
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De obicei partea financiara e o problema. Ia 2 pneuri bune si noi si pune-le pe fata, si altele de iarna SH si pune-le pe spate. Tot nu e bine dar macar diferenta nu va mai fi la fel de mare.
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@Mituc, in Finlanda - Helsinki sunt legale, scoteau un zgomot infernal cand nu era zapada!
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Winter Tests
Passenger Car Winter
2010 Auto Bild Performance Winter Tyre Test
Winner: Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D (Size: 245/45 r18 / Tyre: Ultra High Performance)
2010 European Winter Tyre Test
Winner: Michelin Alpin A4 (Size: 225/45 r17 / Tyre: High Performance)
2010 Auto Bild Winter Tyre Test
Winner: Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D (Size: 195/65 r15 / Tyre: Premium Touring)
2010 Auto Zeitung Winter Tyre Test
Winner: Continental WinterContact TS830 (Size: 195/65 r15 / Tyre: Premium Touring)
2010 European Winter Tyre Test Part 2
Winner: Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D (Size: 185/65 r15 / Tyre: Premium Touring)
2009 AMS Summer and Winter Tyre Test - Winter
Winner: Continental WinterContact TS830 (Size: 225/55 r16 / Tyre: Ultra High Performance)
2009 Sport Auto Performance Winter Tyre Test
Winner: Continental WinterContact TS 830 P (Size: 225/45 r17 / Tyre: Ultra High Performance)
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2010 Auto Bild Performance Winter Tyre Test
Winter tyres are a hot subject at the moment, with new tests being released weekly. Usually winter tyre tests focus on the smaller tyre sizes winter tyres are often used in, meaning if you drive a performance car and are interested in ultra high performance winter tyres you have to hope the tyres tested in the smaller sizes have the same attributes in the larger sizes.

Fortunately this year Auto Bild have released a secondary winter tyre test using 245/45 R 18 sized tyres. The tyres were tested on an Audi TT and had the usual mix of tests on dry, wet and snowy roads.

One result worth noting is the TyreReviews favourite Nokian WRG2 finishing last. Rest assured it’s still a good tyre for the UK climate, the test scoring was bias towards snow performance, but Auto Bild commended the WRG2’s sporty dry handing and good wet grip.

Here are the full results with breakdown

1st:
Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D
Total: 25 / Dry: 7 / Wet: 9 / Snow: 9
Positive: Excellent winter properties with excellent cornering on hard-packed snow, very good aquaplaning properties, dynamically balanced handling characteristics on wet and dry track
Negative: Slightly higher noise levels

2nd:
Continental WinterContact TS 830 P
Total: 24 / Dry: 6 / Wet: 8 / Snow: 10
Positive: Excellent winter properties with the best traction and shortest braking distances on snow, excelling aquaplaning properties, dynamic handling characteristics with short braking distances on wet roads
Negative: Slightly long dry braking distances

3rd:
Pirelli Sottozero Serie II
Total: 21 / Dry: 7 / Wet: 7 / Snow: 7
Positive: Good winter performance with safe cornering on snow and ice, balanced dynamic performance on wet and dry roads, low rolling resistance
Negative: Slightly longer stopping distances on wet and dry surfaces

4th:
Goodyear Ultra Grip Performance 2
Total: 20 / Dry: 6 / Wet: 6 / Snow: 8
Positive: Convincing winter performance with short braking distances on snow, sufficient aquaplaning performance, safe driving on wet and dry surfaces
Negative: Slightly longer braking distances on dry roads, increased rolling resistance

5th:
Nokian WRG2
Total: 17 / Dry: 7 / Wet: 5 / Snow: 5
Positive: Good safety margin in the wet, sporty handling with short braking distances on dry roads
Negative: Only satisfactory winter characteristics, slightly extended braking distances on a wet track
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2010 European Winter Tyre Test
The European winter tyre test is the largest of the year, covering 28 tyres in 2 different sizes, 225/45 r17 discussed in this part of the article, and 185/65 r15 here.

This year the tests were more stringent than ever. Not only did the 28 tyres have their dry, wet, snow and ice grip tested but they were also scored on their wear, fuel consumption and comfort properties.

Following the trend from the European summer test, the big brands once again dominated with Michelin, Continental and Dunlop taking the top 3 spots.

The new Michelin Aplin A4 placed first thanks to it’s consistent scoring, topping both the wear test and the wet segment of the handling tests. The Continental ContiWinterContact TS830P continued it’s strong results in 2010 placing second by winning the snow section overall, and the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D placed 3rd overall thanks again to consistent excellent results.

Here are the full results. The scores were weighted in favour of wet weather and snow performance, with the final results being 15% Dry, 30% wet, 20% snow, 10% ice, 10% fuel, 5% comfort and 10% wear.

1st:
Michelin Alpin A4
Total: 18 / Dry: 2.4 / Wet: 2.8 / Snow: 2.8 / Ice: 2.1 / Rolling Resistance: 2.1 / Comfort: 1.3 / Wear: 4.5
Positive: A very balanced tyre scoring very well in all safety related tests. Top marks for wear and on wet surfaces.

2nd:
Continental WinterContact TS 830 P
Total: 17.3 / Dry: 2.4 / Wet: 2.5 / Snow: 3.2 / Ice: 2.1 / Rolling Resistance: 2.5 / Comfort: 1.9 / Wear: 2.7
Positive: A very balanced tyre scoring very well in all safety related tests. Top marks on snow

3rd:
Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D
Total: 15.8 / Dry: 2.5 / Wet: 2.7 / Snow: 2.5 / Ice: 1.7 / Rolling Resistance: 2.1 / Comfort: 1.5 / Wear: 2.8
Positive: A very balanced tyre scoring very well in all safety related tests

4th:
Uniroyal MS plus 66
Total: 15.3 / Dry: 2.4 / Wet: 2.8 / Snow: 2.2 / Ice: 1.8 / Rolling Resistance: 1.7 / Comfort: 1.7 / Wear: 2.7
Positive: Top marks on wet roads
Negative: A slight weakness on snow and with fuel consumption

5th:
Semperit Speed Grip
Total: 15 / Dry: 2.5 / Wet: 2.5 / Snow: 2.3 / Ice: 1.9 / Rolling Resistance: 1.6 / Comfort: 1.6 / Wear: 2.6
Positive: Great wet grip
Negative: A slight weakness on snow and in fuel consumption

6th:
Fulda Kristall Control HP
Total: 14.5 / Dry: 2.3 / Wet: 2.3 / Snow: 3 / Ice: 1.6 / Rolling Resistance: 2.1 / Comfort: 1.2 / Wear: 2
Positive: Very good on snow
Negative: Slight weakness on wet roads and ice

7th:
Nokian WRG2
Total: 14.5 / Dry: 2.7 / Wet: 2.4 / Snow: 2.3 / Ice: 2.2 / Rolling Resistance: 2.1 / Comfort: 0.7 / Wear: 2.1
Positive: Excellent dry grip
Negative: Slight weakness on wet roads and ice

8th:
Goodyear Ultra Grip Performance 2
Total: 14.6 / Dry: 2.2 / Wet: 2.3 / Snow: 2.4 / Ice: 2 / Rolling Resistance: 2 / Comfort: 1.2 / Wear: 2.5
Positive: Good dry grip
Negative: Slight weakness on wet roads and snow

9th:
Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero 2
Total: 13.3 / Dry: 2.4 / Wet: 2.1 / Snow: 2.3 / Ice: 1.6 / Rolling Resistance: 2.2 / Comfort: 0.9 / Wear: 1.8
Negative: Slight weakness on wet roads and in snow and ice

10th:
Yokohama W Drive
Total: 14.7 / Dry: 2.8 / Wet: 2.2 / Snow: 1.7 / Ice: 1.7 / Rolling Resistance: 2 / Comfort: 1.3 / Wear: 3
Positive: Top marks on dry roads
Negative: Weak on snow
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